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	<title>Comments on: How to Make a Survival Stove (Car Heater)</title>
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		<title>By: TacticalIntelligence</title>
		<link>http://www.tacticalintelligence.net/blog/how-to-make-a-survival-stove-car-heater.htm/comment-page-1#comment-1017</link>
		<dc:creator>TacticalIntelligence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 03:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good advice Karen. Thanks for the comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good advice Karen. Thanks for the comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 02:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first heater I made worked perfectly. On the second one I spilled a little of the alcohol in the large outer can and when I lit the heater, the large can did smoke and the fire kinda spread out to the larger can to burn off the spilled part. SO MAKE SURE the alcohol stays just in the smaller can with the toilet paper and it will work like it&#039;s supposed to with no smoke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first heater I made worked perfectly. On the second one I spilled a little of the alcohol in the large outer can and when I lit the heater, the large can did smoke and the fire kinda spread out to the larger can to burn off the spilled part. SO MAKE SURE the alcohol stays just in the smaller can with the toilet paper and it will work like it&#8217;s supposed to with no smoke.</p>
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		<title>By: TacticalIntelligence</title>
		<link>http://www.tacticalintelligence.net/blog/how-to-make-a-survival-stove-car-heater.htm/comment-page-1#comment-1002</link>
		<dc:creator>TacticalIntelligence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 01:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey CJ,

Thanks for the comments and advice. I agree that it should be used only in emergencies. I did mention this is a survival stove and should be part of your emergency car kit so I assumed people would understand that. 

As for the emissions, in my testing of the stove (see my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tacticalintelligence.net/blog/testing-out-the-survival-stove.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Testing Out the Survival Stove&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tacticalintelligence.net/blog/survival-car-heater-carbon-monoxide-testing-results.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Carbon Monoxide Testing Result&lt;/a&gt; articles) I did not get any blackening of my roof. My interior roof is a light (almost white) grey cloth and after both those tests (about an hour of running the stove) no blackening occurred. It may be due to clean burn of the 90% isopropyl alchohol. 

Definitely test it out for yourself and let me know your results. I love hearing other people&#039;s experience with this stove. 

All in all, it is a very clean-burning stove that is a very effective heater for your car. It does take a bit of practice to ensure that you run this stove safely so I should probably stress the importance of testing it out before the emergency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey CJ,</p>
<p>Thanks for the comments and advice. I agree that it should be used only in emergencies. I did mention this is a survival stove and should be part of your emergency car kit so I assumed people would understand that. </p>
<p>As for the emissions, in my testing of the stove (see my <a href="http://www.tacticalintelligence.net/blog/testing-out-the-survival-stove.htm" rel="nofollow">Testing Out the Survival Stove</a> and <a href="http://www.tacticalintelligence.net/blog/survival-car-heater-carbon-monoxide-testing-results.htm" rel="nofollow">Carbon Monoxide Testing Result</a> articles) I did not get any blackening of my roof. My interior roof is a light (almost white) grey cloth and after both those tests (about an hour of running the stove) no blackening occurred. It may be due to clean burn of the 90% isopropyl alchohol. </p>
<p>Definitely test it out for yourself and let me know your results. I love hearing other people&#8217;s experience with this stove. </p>
<p>All in all, it is a very clean-burning stove that is a very effective heater for your car. It does take a bit of practice to ensure that you run this stove safely so I should probably stress the importance of testing it out before the emergency.</p>
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		<title>By: CJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>CJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 23:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should probably mention somewhere here that this heater is not for regular use, as the rising emissions will blacken anything above it (i.e. the roof of your car, if using this as a car heater). This is great for emergencies if you&#039;re freezing, but I wouldn&#039;t use it if you just get tired driving in the middle of the night and decide to pull over for a quick nap. Obviously you meant this as an emergency-only tool, but I think people may try to use it for more than that if you don&#039;t specify the down-sides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should probably mention somewhere here that this heater is not for regular use, as the rising emissions will blacken anything above it (i.e. the roof of your car, if using this as a car heater). This is great for emergencies if you&#8217;re freezing, but I wouldn&#8217;t use it if you just get tired driving in the middle of the night and decide to pull over for a quick nap. Obviously you meant this as an emergency-only tool, but I think people may try to use it for more than that if you don&#8217;t specify the down-sides.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 05:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erick


I tryed using 2 ply tolet paper to see if it would make a difference with 70% alcohol.  It didn&#039;t, but with 91 % alcohol it worked very well.  The hole in my quart size can is about the size of a haft dollar.  In using the heater for a cooking stove I used a separate gallon can and made several quarter size holes around the top of the can so there would be enough ventilation to keep the burner going.  I placed a pan of water on top of it to see if it would heat up the water.  The flame was not large enough to do it so I took the lid off the the quart size can.  That increased the flame quite abit, but I ran into a problem when I tryed to extinguish the flame.  I couldn&#039;t extinguish the normal way using the lid because I had the ventilation holes in it.  The only way to extinguish it is to use a larger container to cover the gallon can.  If you are using the heater to cook with, it probaly would be best to use it only out side of the car. because the flame would be to differcult to control.  I am going to keep the heater inside of my car along with several containers of of fuel for an emergency.  Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erick</p>
<p>I tryed using 2 ply tolet paper to see if it would make a difference with 70% alcohol.  It didn&#8217;t, but with 91 % alcohol it worked very well.  The hole in my quart size can is about the size of a haft dollar.  In using the heater for a cooking stove I used a separate gallon can and made several quarter size holes around the top of the can so there would be enough ventilation to keep the burner going.  I placed a pan of water on top of it to see if it would heat up the water.  The flame was not large enough to do it so I took the lid off the the quart size can.  That increased the flame quite abit, but I ran into a problem when I tryed to extinguish the flame.  I couldn&#8217;t extinguish the normal way using the lid because I had the ventilation holes in it.  The only way to extinguish it is to use a larger container to cover the gallon can.  If you are using the heater to cook with, it probaly would be best to use it only out side of the car. because the flame would be to differcult to control.  I am going to keep the heater inside of my car along with several containers of of fuel for an emergency.  Thank you</p>
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		<title>By: TacticalIntelligence</title>
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		<dc:creator>TacticalIntelligence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s great Karen! Nice to hear you had success with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s great Karen! Nice to hear you had success with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I made a heater using a 28 oz tomato can, 1000 1-ply roll of toilet paper, and 91% alcohol. The paper was fitted in very tightly...I actually had to use the heal of my shoe to get it in well. I used almost 3/4 of a 32 oz bottle of alcohol but it took quite a while for it to soak it up as the paper fit so tightly. We lit it and it burned very well for several minutes with a full flame before we put it out. We lit it again and it still burned well for a longer period of time even without adding more alcohol before the second lighting. I&#039;m sure it would have burned as long as we wanted. It never diminished or acted like it was going to go out. We&#039;re pleased.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I made a heater using a 28 oz tomato can, 1000 1-ply roll of toilet paper, and 91% alcohol. The paper was fitted in very tightly&#8230;I actually had to use the heal of my shoe to get it in well. I used almost 3/4 of a 32 oz bottle of alcohol but it took quite a while for it to soak it up as the paper fit so tightly. We lit it and it burned very well for several minutes with a full flame before we put it out. We lit it again and it still burned well for a longer period of time even without adding more alcohol before the second lighting. I&#8217;m sure it would have burned as long as we wanted. It never diminished or acted like it was going to go out. We&#8217;re pleased.</p>
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		<title>By: Erich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 17:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ray,

That&#039;s a good point with one ply. Whatever material you end up using to fill the quart size can needs to be able to produce the capillary action required for a continual burn. It&#039;s possible that the one ply doesn&#039;t provide that. For my stove I used double ply. Either way, I&#039;d like to hear your results. 

I&#039;ve also been thinking that a cotton t-shirt stuffed in the can would also be effective since cotton cloth is an excellent wick -- again due to the capillary action that the material provides. I need to try that out with an old t-shirt to see how it works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a good point with one ply. Whatever material you end up using to fill the quart size can needs to be able to produce the capillary action required for a continual burn. It&#8217;s possible that the one ply doesn&#8217;t provide that. For my stove I used double ply. Either way, I&#8217;d like to hear your results. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also been thinking that a cotton t-shirt stuffed in the can would also be effective since cotton cloth is an excellent wick &#8212; again due to the capillary action that the material provides. I need to try that out with an old t-shirt to see how it works.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 22:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erick


I will try using 90% alcohol.  Also maybe the tolet paper I used is to compressed.  I used one ply tolet paper.  Could it be that maybe there needs to be some minute air space in the roll of paper so the alcohol can cirulate more easierly through the paper. I will try using 2 ply enstead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erick</p>
<p>I will try using 90% alcohol.  Also maybe the tolet paper I used is to compressed.  I used one ply tolet paper.  Could it be that maybe there needs to be some minute air space in the roll of paper so the alcohol can cirulate more easierly through the paper. I will try using 2 ply enstead.</p>
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		<title>By: TacticalIntelligence</title>
		<link>http://www.tacticalintelligence.net/blog/how-to-make-a-survival-stove-car-heater.htm/comment-page-1#comment-915</link>
		<dc:creator>TacticalIntelligence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 21:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ray,

First off, are you sure the toilet paper is completely saturated? If so, then it sounds like the hole in the lid is a bit small for that alchohol type. When I&#039;ve used the small hole I had 90% Isopropyl with no problems. However, when I refilled with 70% it would not stay lit. So instead I just slid the lid slightly off center of the smaller can and the burn would come out the exposed side. This seemed to fix the issue while minimizing the flame size.

Give it a try and let us know how it works out...

The wire cage idea sounds great. That stove definitely puts out enough heat to work as a cook stove as well. Good luck!

- Erich</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray,</p>
<p>First off, are you sure the toilet paper is completely saturated? If so, then it sounds like the hole in the lid is a bit small for that alchohol type. When I&#8217;ve used the small hole I had 90% Isopropyl with no problems. However, when I refilled with 70% it would not stay lit. So instead I just slid the lid slightly off center of the smaller can and the burn would come out the exposed side. This seemed to fix the issue while minimizing the flame size.</p>
<p>Give it a try and let us know how it works out&#8230;</p>
<p>The wire cage idea sounds great. That stove definitely puts out enough heat to work as a cook stove as well. Good luck!</p>
<p>- Erich</p>
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