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		<title>By: Tactical Intelligence</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jun 2011 04:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Dave and Cody to crew): &quot;C&#039;mon guys, do you HAVE to bring out the smores! I mean really now!&quot;</description>
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		<title>By: ArcticTiger7</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2011 08:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. I would love to see a behind the episodes show. Question I&#039;d like to ask is about the crew. Do they have to survive with Dave and Cody or do they have their own supplies? And if they do, how much does that suck for Cody and Dave?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. I would love to see a behind the episodes show. Question I&#8217;d like to ask is about the crew. Do they have to survive with Dave and Cody or do they have their own supplies? And if they do, how much does that suck for Cody and Dave?</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Shaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 02:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is from the BushcraftUSA Forum via SUrvival Magazine

Found this interesting just passing it along

http://bushcraftusa.com/forum/showth...highlight=dave

I want to put this Dave Canterbury (aka &quot;The Pathfinder&quot;) issue to bed. He was asked to leave, by ME. He had violated the advertising and self-promotion rule numerous times, but had several chances, which others have not received, as I am sure they will attest to. Canterbury decided to call it politics when I informed him that he needed to make the 100 post minimum like everyone else. Part of his response was &quot;I am not some unknown knife maker brother.&quot; I am not a knife maker, but that is pretty insulting to me. He felt he was above the rules, because he is &quot;The Pathfinder.&quot; He&#039;s not.

I knew he had falsified his military experience, and as a combat veteran, and disabled at that, I take a dim view of folks lying about their service, and disparaging the people who have actually giving their time, blood and sometimes their lives, to the service of their country. It does not matter if you served in combat, peace time, are disabled or not. If you served, then you served, and I respect you…as long as you do not compromise your integrity in telling about your service.

Here are the facts about David Michael Canterbury. He has had a couple of aliases, but we will use the name on his military records. I have acquired a copy of his military records, through the POW Network, via the Freedom of Information Act.

Claims by Mr. Canterbury, from his own words on this site, as well his biography on Discovery and his personal site (some of these items disappeared the last week of June 2010). His claims are in bold, followed by the facts as presented in his official military records.

1. Over 20 years of Combined Military and Civilian Survival: No survival training annotated in military records.
2. US Military Veteran 1981-1988: Dates of Service: 12/03/1981 to 11/25/1987. That is just under 6 years, not 7.
3. Airborne: FALSE
4. Sniper: Not US Army Sniper. He DID attend a local 4th ID Sniper/Counter-Sniper Class (2 wks - 1986).
5. Scout: FALSE. He only attended the Law Enforcement 95B Course. He was an MP ONLY, not a 19D Scout.
6. SRT Member: He did attend the local 4th ID Course (2 wks – 1986), but there is no record of him being on SRT, per his Assignment Record.
7. SRT Coordinator and Instructor: He could have been a coordinator, but until doctrine changed in 1993 (after he was out), you had to be an E-6 (SSG) in order to be an instructor. Canterbury never attained this rank.
8. Joint Service Operations in Central America 1986-87 (Honduras/Nicaragua): NO RECORD
9. Performed Security Escorts for Military Equipment in Korea for Specialized Equipment to Forward areas near the DMZ between North and South Korea 1983-85: According to his military record, while stationed in South Korea, he was an “ID Badge Clerk.”
10. Squad Leader 4th ID 1982-1983: Not unless they make Privates squad leaders.
11. Ranger: FALSE
12. Instructor in Close Quarters Combat in US, Central America and Korea: See #7 &amp; #8.

Military Decorations and Awards:
1. Army Service Ribbon (For completing AIT) (x1)
2. Army Good Conduct Ribbon (x1)
3. Overseas Service Ribbon (x1)
4. Army Achievement Medal (x2)
5. Expert Badge with bars: auto rifle, pistol &amp; hand grenade
6. Driver’s Badge

I disparage no one from being a success. I love success stories! I do however, abhor someone with no integrity, and refuse to hold them in high esteem, regardless of their accomplishments, especially when those accomplishments were achieved through lies and deceit, and at the expense of good people.

This is not a board for Dave Canterbury. This is a board for bushcraft, and although we may experience mission creep, it is still about the outdoors, and the honor and integrity of ALL of US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is from the BushcraftUSA Forum via SUrvival Magazine</p>
<p>Found this interesting just passing it along</p>
<p><a href="http://bushcraftusa.com/forum/showth...highlight=dave" rel="nofollow">http://bushcraftusa.com/forum/showth&#8230;highlight=dave</a></p>
<p>I want to put this Dave Canterbury (aka &#8220;The Pathfinder&#8221;) issue to bed. He was asked to leave, by ME. He had violated the advertising and self-promotion rule numerous times, but had several chances, which others have not received, as I am sure they will attest to. Canterbury decided to call it politics when I informed him that he needed to make the 100 post minimum like everyone else. Part of his response was &#8220;I am not some unknown knife maker brother.&#8221; I am not a knife maker, but that is pretty insulting to me. He felt he was above the rules, because he is &#8220;The Pathfinder.&#8221; He&#8217;s not.</p>
<p>I knew he had falsified his military experience, and as a combat veteran, and disabled at that, I take a dim view of folks lying about their service, and disparaging the people who have actually giving their time, blood and sometimes their lives, to the service of their country. It does not matter if you served in combat, peace time, are disabled or not. If you served, then you served, and I respect you…as long as you do not compromise your integrity in telling about your service.</p>
<p>Here are the facts about David Michael Canterbury. He has had a couple of aliases, but we will use the name on his military records. I have acquired a copy of his military records, through the POW Network, via the Freedom of Information Act.</p>
<p>Claims by Mr. Canterbury, from his own words on this site, as well his biography on Discovery and his personal site (some of these items disappeared the last week of June 2010). His claims are in bold, followed by the facts as presented in his official military records.</p>
<p>1. Over 20 years of Combined Military and Civilian Survival: No survival training annotated in military records.<br />
2. US Military Veteran 1981-1988: Dates of Service: 12/03/1981 to 11/25/1987. That is just under 6 years, not 7.<br />
3. Airborne: FALSE<br />
4. Sniper: Not US Army Sniper. He DID attend a local 4th ID Sniper/Counter-Sniper Class (2 wks &#8211; 1986).<br />
5. Scout: FALSE. He only attended the Law Enforcement 95B Course. He was an MP ONLY, not a 19D Scout.<br />
6. SRT Member: He did attend the local 4th ID Course (2 wks – 1986), but there is no record of him being on SRT, per his Assignment Record.<br />
7. SRT Coordinator and Instructor: He could have been a coordinator, but until doctrine changed in 1993 (after he was out), you had to be an E-6 (SSG) in order to be an instructor. Canterbury never attained this rank.<br />
8. Joint Service Operations in Central America 1986-87 (Honduras/Nicaragua): NO RECORD<br />
9. Performed Security Escorts for Military Equipment in Korea for Specialized Equipment to Forward areas near the DMZ between North and South Korea 1983-85: According to his military record, while stationed in South Korea, he was an “ID Badge Clerk.”<br />
10. Squad Leader 4th ID 1982-1983: Not unless they make Privates squad leaders.<br />
11. Ranger: FALSE<br />
12. Instructor in Close Quarters Combat in US, Central America and Korea: See #7 &amp; #8.</p>
<p>Military Decorations and Awards:<br />
1. Army Service Ribbon (For completing AIT) (x1)<br />
2. Army Good Conduct Ribbon (x1)<br />
3. Overseas Service Ribbon (x1)<br />
4. Army Achievement Medal (x2)<br />
5. Expert Badge with bars: auto rifle, pistol &amp; hand grenade<br />
6. Driver’s Badge</p>
<p>I disparage no one from being a success. I love success stories! I do however, abhor someone with no integrity, and refuse to hold them in high esteem, regardless of their accomplishments, especially when those accomplishments were achieved through lies and deceit, and at the expense of good people.</p>
<p>This is not a board for Dave Canterbury. This is a board for bushcraft, and although we may experience mission creep, it is still about the outdoors, and the honor and integrity of ALL of US.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Andrews</title>
		<link>http://www.tacticalintelligence.net/blog/dual-survival.htm/comment-page-1#comment-6515</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Andrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 03:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>G&#039;day

Im a recient fan of dual survival and have enjoyed the first series immensely, can&#039;t wait for season 2! I have watched alot of survival type senario shows and have noticed alot of crossover ( regardless of the host ) with life saving info on technique and strategy. 

Shows like survivorman, man v&#039;s wild, dual survivor etc all exhibit the senario of being lost and try to dramaticly recreate something for the camera to make a &quot;show&quot; and within this context you have the inherent problems of production crews and the machine required to capture this for the audience. I would love to see a behind the scenes show on dual survival as they display, by far, the most abundant array of camera angles and post production work of all survival shows i have watched. How much assistance do they recieve and how long are they in these environments? From what i can see it is usually one night so perhaps 48hrs? 

You have displayed a number of comments of least faveroute being man v&#039;s wild, why so? That guy seems to be Cody and Dave rolled into one. Im not an advocate for Bear Grillis i just dont see them as being so different. Unless its a racial thing?

Im Australian and have lived in the top end my whole life and in my opinion some of the most beautiful and extreme environments in the world. If you would like to watch some low key no fake drama survival entertainment on Australian environments check out &quot;Bush Tucker Man&quot; by Les Hiddins. This guy is the real deal, Ex Australian Army he did two tours of Vietnam and has been educated by the local Aboriginal people. He was awarded a defence fellowship in &#039;87 to research survival in the top end and his subsequent series are a record of his exploits.

If you enjoy realistic content without fake drama check it out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G&#8217;day</p>
<p>Im a recient fan of dual survival and have enjoyed the first series immensely, can&#8217;t wait for season 2! I have watched alot of survival type senario shows and have noticed alot of crossover ( regardless of the host ) with life saving info on technique and strategy. </p>
<p>Shows like survivorman, man v&#8217;s wild, dual survivor etc all exhibit the senario of being lost and try to dramaticly recreate something for the camera to make a &#8220;show&#8221; and within this context you have the inherent problems of production crews and the machine required to capture this for the audience. I would love to see a behind the scenes show on dual survival as they display, by far, the most abundant array of camera angles and post production work of all survival shows i have watched. How much assistance do they recieve and how long are they in these environments? From what i can see it is usually one night so perhaps 48hrs? </p>
<p>You have displayed a number of comments of least faveroute being man v&#8217;s wild, why so? That guy seems to be Cody and Dave rolled into one. Im not an advocate for Bear Grillis i just dont see them as being so different. Unless its a racial thing?</p>
<p>Im Australian and have lived in the top end my whole life and in my opinion some of the most beautiful and extreme environments in the world. If you would like to watch some low key no fake drama survival entertainment on Australian environments check out &#8220;Bush Tucker Man&#8221; by Les Hiddins. This guy is the real deal, Ex Australian Army he did two tours of Vietnam and has been educated by the local Aboriginal people. He was awarded a defence fellowship in &#8217;87 to research survival in the top end and his subsequent series are a record of his exploits.</p>
<p>If you enjoy realistic content without fake drama check it out!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.tacticalintelligence.net/blog/dual-survival.htm/comment-page-1#comment-1485</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 00:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just returned from the Pathfinder Gathering #2. in Hillsboro, OHIO - Rocky Fork State Park. Sat 31 July thru Wed 4 Aug. The entire Canterbury Family was involved. Many of the Instructors &amp; Vendors participated in Cooking Breakfast &amp; Dinner. Not  A
Harsh Word was Heard all week. Very informative and well worth the 1600 mile round trip drive.
SIgn-Up Early for next year, Success Will Cause larger turn-out!
Brian Oh&#039;Brian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just returned from the Pathfinder Gathering #2. in Hillsboro, OHIO &#8211; Rocky Fork State Park. Sat 31 July thru Wed 4 Aug. The entire Canterbury Family was involved. Many of the Instructors &amp; Vendors participated in Cooking Breakfast &amp; Dinner. Not  A<br />
Harsh Word was Heard all week. Very informative and well worth the 1600 mile round trip drive.<br />
SIgn-Up Early for next year, Success Will Cause larger turn-out!<br />
Brian Oh&#8217;Brian</p>
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		<title>By: Erich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 01:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I think I&#039;ll be buying it too.</description>
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		<title>By: noyb</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 05:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These guys are awesome!  My favorite Survivalist is Les Stroud, but these guys really know their stuff.  I&#039;ll definitely be buying their books!  Can&#039;t wait for the first &quot;Dual Survival&quot; DVD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These guys are awesome!  My favorite Survivalist is Les Stroud, but these guys really know their stuff.  I&#8217;ll definitely be buying their books!  Can&#8217;t wait for the first &#8220;Dual Survival&#8221; DVD.</p>
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		<title>By: Tactical Intelligence</title>
		<link>http://www.tacticalintelligence.net/blog/dual-survival.htm/comment-page-1#comment-1438</link>
		<dc:creator>Tactical Intelligence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles,

I&#039;ve heard some good reviews about that book. Will have to check it out. Thanks for the great examples!</description>
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<p>I&#8217;ve heard some good reviews about that book. Will have to check it out. Thanks for the great examples!</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A really good scenario book to demostrate what you are saying in &quot;One Second After&quot; with the event centering around an EMP attack.
  Here your community trumps super individual is laid out two fold. The story focasing on a NC community needing to rally its people and resources. A small non developed segment speaks of early thoughts of a extended family living just beyond this community and the judgment if it is worth taking their resources by force.
  As they were highly prepared and the community leaders were overwhelmed with the sudden distigration of their location it was decided this sure waste of man power and limited resources should be postponed. Later mention shows as the community galvanizes to repulse a much larger centralized threat these &quot;Survivalist&quot; share technology to help in the struggle against Annihilation.
 I found this a very sobering book dealing with  WTSHTF reality and strips away a lot of the shallowness of being able to take your 4 and no more with a few bugout bags or a basement full of MREs and really outlast a true total system breakdown.
  I believe most of the type of Prepper and basic survivial anticipation really is limited to a partial breakdown like a Katrina or tornado or ice storm situation where, only a small portion of the fabric of civilization comes apart and even if for two weeks there is a realative restoration of at least martial law.
  Other than that One Second After has a lot to stir deep contemplation about how a group and, family, tribe, community will have to come together to be able to have any hope of survival.
  Also the Discovery Channels earlier  End of the World&quot; scenario in downtown LA showed that even with talented, and genius innovation this community failed when it came to being able to provide food. So if you can&#039;t provide consistant food all your Gilligan Island technologies and expended energy may well leave monuments to your accomplishments but bleached bones as well. 
 It was all really cool but, you couldn&#039;t eat it. Once again pointing out what are the real priorities in a survival situation. 
 Just my two cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A really good scenario book to demostrate what you are saying in &#8220;One Second After&#8221; with the event centering around an EMP attack.<br />
  Here your community trumps super individual is laid out two fold. The story focasing on a NC community needing to rally its people and resources. A small non developed segment speaks of early thoughts of a extended family living just beyond this community and the judgment if it is worth taking their resources by force.<br />
  As they were highly prepared and the community leaders were overwhelmed with the sudden distigration of their location it was decided this sure waste of man power and limited resources should be postponed. Later mention shows as the community galvanizes to repulse a much larger centralized threat these &#8220;Survivalist&#8221; share technology to help in the struggle against Annihilation.<br />
 I found this a very sobering book dealing with  WTSHTF reality and strips away a lot of the shallowness of being able to take your 4 and no more with a few bugout bags or a basement full of MREs and really outlast a true total system breakdown.<br />
  I believe most of the type of Prepper and basic survivial anticipation really is limited to a partial breakdown like a Katrina or tornado or ice storm situation where, only a small portion of the fabric of civilization comes apart and even if for two weeks there is a realative restoration of at least martial law.<br />
  Other than that One Second After has a lot to stir deep contemplation about how a group and, family, tribe, community will have to come together to be able to have any hope of survival.<br />
  Also the Discovery Channels earlier  End of the World&#8221; scenario in downtown LA showed that even with talented, and genius innovation this community failed when it came to being able to provide food. So if you can&#8217;t provide consistant food all your Gilligan Island technologies and expended energy may well leave monuments to your accomplishments but bleached bones as well.<br />
 It was all really cool but, you couldn&#8217;t eat it. Once again pointing out what are the real priorities in a survival situation.<br />
 Just my two cents.</p>
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		<title>By: Tactical Intelligence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tactical Intelligence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 10:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol, I love that episode!</description>
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